To be fair, he didn't fight all of them at once, only a few at a timeĭoubt there's any actual reason to prove they were more highly trained, or had any particularly notable training at all Unlike Batman we could also see what Oliver was doing, for whatever that's worth. What's more, he fought a lot more than 12 men in both scenes, and the men he fought were far higher trained than the gangsters Batman fought. Oliver was fighting the thugs 2-4 at a time at most, whereas Batman jumped right into the center of 12 armed guys and took them down without getting hit once.
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That koing 12 guys is not that impressive imo, maybe by itself and when you factor the science of how strong someone would have to be in order to KO 12 guys in 21 seconds.Yada Yada.But comparing it to feats committed by other skilled h2h comic characters in live action movies and Tv Shows, its barely average.And pretty rudimentry for a Batman feat in the movies.And he performed a far better feat in the Dark Knight with his lighter more streamlined suit when he easily took out an entire Swat Hey I forgot that scene happened!Īnyways though, what exactly makes those scenes any more impressive than Batman's scene? I guess there's the added bonus that Oliver is an archer so there is some added flare there, but tbh I'd say Batman's is more impressive, even if just by a little.That gives Ras an advantage becuase that suit Bruce was using in BB is incredibly restricting a fact that is enhanced by being in a enclosed restricting space like a train car(Not making it that up btw, this was literally referenced in the dark knight when Bruce went to Lucius Fox for another, leaner, faster and more streamlined Batsuit.I dont think Ras would have feared as well against a lighter, more streamlined Batman.Maybe a stalemate if anything but certainly not a decisive victory like he had in BB.Sure they were in an enclosed area, but why would that give Ra's the advantage? The point is Batman is INCREDIBLY fast and agile as well as being extremely skilled and strong enough to KO 12 guys with probably 1-2 punches max each, yet Ra's still kept up just fine with him and beat him. I mean, you're making a choreography argument vs actually looking at the feats themselves and what happened in them (as well as director intent).
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